Storyteller: Cahn, Edgar
Interviewer: Houseman, Alan
Date of interview: 2002-07-03
Topics: Civil legal aid: General and OEO Legal Services
Geo, US: DC
NEJL I.D.: NEJL-009.056
Georgetown status: Transcript yes and Video online
Link to NEJL page: http://hdl.handle.net/10822/709336
NEJL AV link: https://mediapilot.georgetown.edu/ssdcms/i.do?u=8e819e542a254f2
Transcript link: Transcript
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Consortium status: Gtn info copied
Bibliographic citation: Oral history interview with Edgar S. Cahn, conducted by Alan Houseman on July 3rd, 2002. Oral History collection, National Equal Justice Library, Georgetown Law Library.
Abstract: In the interview, Edgar Cahn recalls how he met his wife, Jean Camper Cahn, at Swarthmore, how he followed her into law school after getting his PhD in English, and how the couple became involved with legal services in New Haven. He describes how they came to write their landmark article: “War on Poverty: A Civilian Perspective” (1964), the beginnings of the OEO legal services program, and his work with Sargent Shriver (he worked as special counsel to Sargent Shriver until 1967) and the Task Force on the War on Poverty. Cahn left the OEO and established the Citizen’s Advocate Center in 1968. Cahn also touches on controversies with the American Bar Association and the NLADA over legal aid funding, and recalls the process of establishing the Antioch School of Law, which emphasized public interest law.
Downloadable URL (mp4 file): https://mediapilot.georgetown.edu/ssdcms/i.do?u=8e819e542a254f2
Related collection: The Edgar and Jean Cahn Papers, https://repository.library.georgetown.edu/handle/10822/708805
Edgar Cahn earned his B.A. from Swarthmore College in 1956, and his M.A. and PhD in English literature from Yale University in 1960. While at Swarthmore, he met Jean Camper, the daughter of Dr. John E. T. Camper, a prominent African American physician in Baltimore who had founded the city’s first chapter of the NAACP. The two married, and Edgar Cahn eventually followed Jean at Yale Law School (she graduated in 1961 and he graduated in 1963).
Cahn’s involvement with legal services started during his first year of law school, when he worked as an intern for the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare (HEW). During his second year of law school, he worked as a speech writer for Robert Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson. Jean Camper Cahn was working as associate counsel for the Redevelopment Agency in New Haven and was asked to draw the corporate papers for the Community Progress Inc., a community development organization funded by the Ford Foundation that undertook the development of different neighborhoods.
The Cahns’ work on legal services in disadvantages communities and on neighborhood law offices formed the basis of their landmark 1964 article for the Yale Law Journal, “The War on Poverty: A Civilian Perspective,” which proposed a national system of legal services to the poor. The article, which they discussed extensively with Gary Bellow, provided an important foundation for the creation of the federal legal services program under Sargent Shriver. The OEO funded program was replaced in 1974 by the Legal Services Corporation.
In 1972, the Cahns founded the Antioch School of Law in Washington, DC, which emphasized public interest law. The school used a clinic education model to train students. Students spent the first two weeks of the school year living with a poor family to familiarize themselves with the people they would be representing. The school was closed in 1988, but its legacy continues at the University of the District of Columbia’s Clarke School of Law where Edgar Cahn is Distinguished Professor Emeritus. Jean Cahn died in 1991 from breast cancer. She continued to teach and practice law until her death. Edgar and Jean Cahn were pioneers in legal services and clinical legal education.
Together and individually they helped shape the field of legal services as we know it today. Edgar Cahn founded Time Bank. Time Banking was conceptualized by Edgar while he was a fellow at the London School of Economics in 1987. Members of Time Bank earn Time Dollars for each hour they perform a community service. Some of these services include child care, helping students with homework and running errands for elderly neighbors. These dollars are then “banked” and can be exchanged for items or services by other members of the Bank. Some members can earn college tuition or a service such as yard work.